I will run out of lube soon so I am posting this review.
The lube is thin, and drips like water, so it’s thinner than Muc Off dry lube, but I guess muc off might last longer, or it might not, but I can’t know for sure without further tests, but they performed quite similar, but Rock N roll keeps chain quite cleaner.
But as this is a dry lube I don’t reccomend using it for wetter days, maybe some minor watter spillage, but any more than that it will probably wash off very fast as with wet Extreme.
So I guess it’s a OK lube for dry atleast for up to 4h hrides, but I haven’t tested this lube to the extremes, but so far it seems like if you ride for ca 4 h you need to lube it, for the next ride.
The chain was quite clean
I don’t know why but trailforks did not record the ride, probably lost signal, so I had to start it about half way trough,
on this ride I mostly rode on dirt,gravel paths and single track in forest at Rudsmosen, and some dry asphalt before & after,, only some short sections were muddy & wet in the forest. it was about 2,3H ride pluss some short rides after the main ride on asphalt.
the dirt lube can be seen. but the chain was quiet and well lubed for the whole ride and still was working well the next days.the dirty wax based lube is on the jockey wheels with a lot of debris, dry grass & toilet paper or maybe some cotton, I don’t know for sure.The cassette is pretty clean, only mud spray.
it stayed cleaner than Muc off wet lube,
I even rode it a short while in rain, it was only few minutes, but it did not effect it, so little bit of rain won’t do harm, but I would not take it out for heavy rain.
If you if you spill some it will leave a white coating, I forgot to wipe off the chainstay when it happen to me so I had while spots.
There is clearly a difference with this lube, it leaves a wax coating, and if you don’t wipe off access it will be visible, it might make a mess I don’t know, but I would wipe it off.
It might perform better than muc off dry lube or it might not, I haven’t tested on very long rides, but for four hour rides more or less this lube will do,which is what Muc Off Dry lube does.
Remember to shake the bottle well, as the cleaner and the lube will seperate.
March 25, 2019 I noticed few days later in the stand that there was a slight increase in noise after 4 h ride. Which was not surprising, but better performance would be welcome.
It did quite decent with some short periods of light rain, and hail trough april 2019.
After testing Muc Off dry lube in dry & very dry conditions, here are the results.
every time I rode with it it gave the same results, I only used it in dry conditions.
but I could not test it for a long time, because I ran out of lube, I have used the lube in the past with the same results, but I did write a review on it until now.
I wanted to try it, but I knew it might not be perfect, and I was right, it was not.
I was used to using lubes, I could use for two days of 4hour riding, but this lube did not offer this with the harsh conditions I rode in.
It cleans the chain very well, black stuff drops off, I can easily wipe off the grime, leaving a shiny clean chain, but it gets lubricated, but it does not last for long, I have to lube chain after every single ride, for multi hour rides you would need to have a bottle with lube with you, this isn’t acceptable for me.
If you soak the chain with Muc Off Wet lube it will result in dripping but not as fast, so pretty similar result, and I can wipe it off with a rage or toiled paper, but Rock ‘n’ Roll wet lube has very different consistency, drips like water.
There is not significant enough gain over the trouble Rock ‘n’ Roll Extreme lube will give me to stick with it.
I have been testing the lube most kinds of conditions, wet, raining, damp, deep snow subzero temperatures down to -10c. But I haven’t had the chance to test it in summer heat, but I don’t need to, a lube I use has to work in varied conditions, this lube clearly is not performing good enough for me.
After riding in subzero temperatures between 30m-1h or thereabouts, and rinsing the bike in off the the shower, the lube the chain was no longer as well lubed, there was still tiny bit, when I ran my finger along the chain, but not a lot, the chain became louder, but after I lubed it, the chain was smooth & quiet.
After few days of riding in freez thaw cycle with some deep long rim and shoe deep puddles getting the drivetrain soaked in water & slush, Crashing in wet snow, I got the chain quite noisy, but this was far worse conditions for longer time than the Rock n’ Roll Extreme lube.
I have also had good results with Weldtite Wet Extreme which it’s a thicker lube.
First time testing summer & autumn:
I have been using cleaning bike and lubing after every ride, so here is how the chain looked like.
How the drivetrain looked like after a 3 H+ ride at Skansehytta, in very varied weather, humid, rain, sunny rain, sunny, riding through puddles. worn KMC X11 SL Silver -Rock & roll Extreme lube I tested the chain with stock lube, but I applied rock extreme lube, but and wiped off access, but the stock chain lube still picked up dirt, and made the chainring and cassette dirty. i later have soaked the chain in Rock lube.
I have done longevity test of the Rock & Roll Extreme lube in I rode few short trips to the few minutes ride, for 2 days, I did not lube it, I went for a Mtb ride the start of the day was about -4c I ended up with about zero, rode some hard packed trails, I ride skitracks, The chain was almost completely dry and made hell of a noise.
Results of March 2018:
I have done testing of the Muc off wet lube over few days, here are the results: Gone over the numbers again: Rock N’ Roll Extreme lube: about 25.24km when testing Rock N’ Roll the weather was quite dry with sub-zero.
Muc Off Wet lube was 28.05 it made a slight noise, but I rode trough rim deep puddles and through slush, I also rode in – 4 to -7c yesterday, it got splashed at least 2 times trough huge the huge puddle, and few others.
Note that the numbers are not 100% accurate as my phone skipped few hundred meters, but the conclusion is clear to me, Muc off vs Rock ‘n roll = Muc off wins, but none of them are perfect, but Rock ‘n roll was horrendous.
Cons:
Short nozzle
Expensive Compared to many other options.
chain is dry too fast
Pros:
Keep the chain quite clean, But i haven’t tested it in horrible mud bath.
Verdict:
Rock ‘n’ Roll Extreme chain lube – Not the king of lubes, as they state with their bold claim. I ride all year, So I need a lube that can handle changing conditions, or I have to have different lubes that can handle the different conditions, But so far Weldtite & Muc Off have done this, I used them in dry conditions too, it was not too bad, but you have to be careful to not overdo it with the Weldtite extreme due to consistency of the lube, to avoid spider webs all over the drivetrain you have to wipe off the access.
But Rock ‘n’ Roll Extreme is a different type of lube, it cleans the chain and leaves lubricant, but it does not last long enough for me.
So the conclusion is, you have to lube it after every ride, or maybe having to have an extra lube bottle with you on those harsh long rides, So not good enough for me.
So so far Muc off & Weldtite Wet Extreme has performed the best, but I have not done a proper scientific longevity comparison test, but the testing I have done, showed they both lasted long.
I have tested the lube in very wet days in various times of the year I have also tested it in the winter in harsh conditions it performed quite well, so far this has the lube with highest consistency I have tried, so make sure you wipe off access because this lube creates ”spider webs”.
I put on the Extreme Wet lube in case it would be wet but became quite dry, But I did not change the lube, I continued using it, it was not dry, so I rode with it after the snow was almost gone, I rode long distance on paved bike path with sand on them, the lube attracted a lot of sand.
the drive train was very crunchy, due to sand and gravel sticking to the chain. I was riding many km’s on the pavement with sand on it from the winter.
It works great in harsh winter, I have ridden in -10 Celsius, but it for very dirty conditions.
The long tip makes it easy to lube the rear dérailleur.
After few days of riding in freeze-thaw cycle with some deep long rim and shoe deep puddles getting the drivetrain asked in water slush, Crashing in wet snow, I got the chain quite noisy, so this is far worse conditions for a longer time than the Rock n’ Roll Extreme lube.
So the conclusion is Muc-Off offers a better option, for a lower price.
some wet some dry, some muddy spots, this is the result:
from the city centre to Skansehytta from parking.
In hot summer days when the bike stands indoors overnight, the lube gets thicker/ the consistency changes, and the chain does not run as smoothly, and the drive train will be noisier and it will attract more dust, so you need to lube it after each ride or the the next day before the ride.
Verdict:
This lube suits most conditions, for wet summer days to muddy wet rain autumn days, to winter, riding in slush, -11c dry icy. but won’t keep the drive train completely clean, this lube performed ok for every thing I put it trough. will last logner than the dry lube.
There might be other lubes that perform as well or better, but so far Muc Off & Weldtite has my favorite lubes.
cleans fork that is brown from dirt with no issues,that dish soap can’t clean.
dries fast
can be used without water,the super wash does not have the dish washing soap or lube feel effect like some other cleaners have (Motorex for example), it feels more like water.
Cons:
cleaning a well lubed chain with Finish line wet with lube full of dirt, will be a issue, and the multi degreaser can’t do the job either.the Multi degreaser got a strong stink.But after many months the stink is not strong any more.
works best on dirt only,I have tried Motorex & Muc off, the Motorex cleaner ,Both Muc off and Motorex works great and even faster than Finishline.
Dry Lube:
But here is where the Finish line Dry lube comes in, the second fuel ex has only been ridden 3 times, and had been standing indoors, without re-lubing. the Motorex could not do the job. but the Finish line dry lube loosened up the chain and now it works perfectly.
I have not tried to ride with this lube, but I assume it is perfect for dry conditions.
The only con of the lube is that it stinks,but you should not sniff lubes anyway.
Wet lube:
the lube works very well, and does not attract much dirt, when you put too much on and don’t wipe off the excess it will not make ”spider-webs” on between the rollers and the chain. like Weldtite Extreme Wet lube does.
because the lube is not sticky the chain stays pretty clean no matter conditions, and is easier to clean that some other lubes like the extremely sticky lube on the Shimano chains.
Works well in the cold, I have been riding it in summer over 20 Celsius down to -6 Celsius with out any issues
Multi Degreaser
the Multi degreaser got a strong stink.But after many months the stink is not strong any more, but you should not breath stuff like this anyway.
Pros:
not any pros that stand out
Cons:
cleaning a well lubed chain with full of dirt, will be a issue, and the multi degreaser can’t do the job either.
The Degreaser Works well, but It struggles with cleaning the lube/grease that come on KMC & Shimano.
Wax lube
I have never tried this lube, but after watching cannondany’s Shaibike’s video it’s clear that i will never buy it.
Brush set
The round paintbrush style brush & round small long brush works well for cleaning off tricky parts,
The brush with the hole, can be used for cleaning crank arms, but i can’t recommend using it for cleaning the brake disc rotor, because the brush can slip out of your hand and you can hit your hand on the sharp rotor,and hurt your hand.
Pros:
not any pros that stand out just does thee job done
Cons:
no rubberised grip
no rubberised brush body, which can result in scratches on frame or bike components
Grunge Brush
This is probably one of the best chain cleaning devices, unlike closed system witch are bit more time consuming, the Grunge Brush work as good as them but it is a simple solution, you can use it to clean the front chainring(s) and the cassette to, witch works great.
the drive train was very crunchy, due to sand and gravel sticking to the chain. I was riding many km’s on the pavement with sand on it from the winter.
